I wasn't originally intending to write this, but I think it is time I rehashed the old Owner's Creed idea. I think it is necessary to know a little more about me, given I still remain one of the greatest enigmas on this server, and its understandable if that may make people uneasy or uncomfortable, or lead to some mistakes being committed.
Anyway, this is a long read so don't hesitate to take your time reading it or not read it at all. But if you do, I hope it will be a fun and amazing learning experience. :)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3avncpj1psy21fn/OwnersCreed.pdf
I find it funny actually. Your remark about respect is rather contradicting.
ReplyDeleteI was nothing but polite to you and others, and yet I was met with hostility just because I was friends with someone you didn't care for. I don't think there's a bigger example of how to break the Golden Rule than that.
Correction, you were met with hostility because you posted in a snide, dramatic and half-insulting fashion on my blog. I think if you had posted something like this, I wouldn't have had a problem keeping it.
DeleteMe being told off and then not allowed to speak came prior to my post on your blog, and it was only on your blog because you refused any and all other forms of contact.
DeleteWell that's very interesting, I only remember telling off your friend. Your send off was a lot more courteous, since you simply asked to be whitelisted for reasons of avoiding getting embroiled in drama. As someone who says to despise drama, there was no reason for you to return, so I threw in the account removal to help enforce your wishes. It did a very thorough job of it, if I do say so myself. ;)
DeleteAnyway, if what you want is to leave in good standing, I can always add a disclaimer on the forum saying you were not banned for misconduct but simply for procedural reasons, that way you don't have to worry about having been told off.
After that, since I still don't see the need to have a private conversation, we can both go our separate ways.
You basically said "Okay, well your friend was doing all the drama, so you and your friend can go screw yourselves." albeit in a more polite manner. You also found and used my Steam account to apparently provide you with evidence against my friend without my knowledge. I still have absolutely no idea how you could have found 'evidence' against my friend over Steam, as the only thing that would come from a search like that would be my relation to another.
DeleteWhat I wanted to do was leave you and my friend in a standing that wasn't at each other's throats. I couldn't care less about how I'm viewed by people I don't know, especially those I don't think I'd care to know.
And you're right when I say I don't like drama. These public conversations only cause drama, where one side would try to gain face or attention from the viewers. Private chats are much less dramatic and honest. However, there's something I dislike even more than drama: Abuse of power. Whether you intended to or not, I felt you abused your power to silence me after getting your word in, which is both uncool and impolite.
I do agree, private chats are less dramatic and polite, and it begs the question why you chose to announce your grievances publicly in the way that you did, and in a highly inappropriate and visible spot like the Applications thread, rather than privately to me or a staff member. Had you approached it that discretely, its quite likely this mess could have been prevented.
DeleteSo yes it is uncool and impolite, but its a reciprocal action. I can admit I abused my power, and I'm sure you can admit to have acted irresponsibly, and since neither of us will back down, I would say that just about makes us even. ;)
I think we've said all that needs to be said, so I will leave it at that. Thank you for the more measured replies this time and good luck to you.
My last post on the forum hadn't mentioned anything but a vague description, your post following it had actually made all the 'details' (as biased as they were) clear for those reading, and- as I stated before- insinuated a conversation or response from me, but denied me the ability to respond.
DeleteI figured bringing up the creed I agreed to prior was indeed responsible of me. What seems to be irresponsible is to ignore things and let things be when there's clearly a problem that could only get worse.
Saying there is drama on the server for all to see without checking with us first or verifying facts is certainly vague but no less irresponsible. Had it crossed your mind that your friend could have been in the wrong, and we were victims of a very targetted smear campaign, and your post helped to twist the proverbial knife in the wound? Its rather telling that after her expulsion, peace has returned and things have pretty much reverted to normal.
DeleteUnderstand that I cant go lightly on people wishing to harm my server and I, and regardless of what you and your friends think you've done, the reality is that a lot of harm was done especially to me, and without acknowledgement or apology. To kowtow to such demands is to validate behavior that shouldn't be encouraged, in much the same way as we wouldn't allow a convicted and unrepentent griefer back into the server expecting different behavior. That would be insane in the classical sense.
And as for the creed, I will say again, these only apply to server players. Once you cease to be one, either through an in-game ban or a voluntary dewhitelist, then you lose all rights promised therein. From that point on, you're dictated by laws of common sense and courtesy, and if you wish to bring about any kind of change, especially when one party has everything to gain and the other a lot to lose (me), then you're advised to be as careful and diplomatic as possible so the losing party can be encouraged to take your words seriously.
Insults and the use of at least one major obscenity (during your first salvos last week) is not going to get you started on an even footing, and in fact displays the same kind of arrogance and over-assumption that got your friend in deep water with me to begin with. In other words, either voluntarily or involuntarily, you have painted yourself as a problem that likely is going to get worse (by your own admission), so either take a step back and rethink your approach, or get some other friend who is better able to negotiate, or simply quit while you're ahead and drop the matter permanently.
I assume you're just going to ignore that I was curious to your side of the story, and that I stated quite clearly before that all I was left with was my friend's side? It's hard to see your point of view if you duck the issue and ignore the questions meant to see it, and I had- and still have- no choice but to see it from my friend's point of view.
DeleteSpeaking of ducking issues, you still haven't mentioned how my Steam profile in any way helped you finalize my friend's banishment, other than that I have them as a contact.
My 'insults' were more warnings than insults. I stated that you could be viewed as or come off as what I said before, not that you actually were, as I made sure to mention as well.
Well thank you for clarifying that last point. ;)
DeleteI'm not quite ducking the issue, I am intentionally not talking about it. I am not a person to break apart friendships, so as far as I'm concerned you can call me a baby eater and her the second coming of the local deity, and I would be okay with that. That way you two can be happy and productive together elsewhere, and I can continue to work uninterrupted on my own things with my own people.
Sounds to me that you just don't have a reasonable point of view and were just simply acting on emotions. Would also think that you were simply making an excuse to ban my friend by throwing in the mention of my Steam, as I still find no logic /whatsoever/ behind that, and you have once again failed to bring it up or explain that.
DeleteAs you wish, now please stop posting here since you have nothing constructive to say. Thank you.
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